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#1 Gildor

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE(ryklim @ Nov 10 2008, 10:43 AM)  

Hi,

Based on existing rules/laws, your child will be born a Singapore citizen, by virtue of you & your wife's citizenship, and the fact that neither of you are PRs in Aust. And, you'll have to submit a form to the ICA (I think) for him/her before he/she turns 1(it's a pain). If you decide to obtain PR after your studies, I don't think your son can be converted to an Aust citizen by virtue of that immediately. He/she will still have to 'serve' 10 years of residency before applying for citizenship.

Obviously, if you get Aust PR, you can apply for Aust PR for your son, based on the 'dependent' rule. And once done, I believe your son (and yourself included) will have the option of converting your PR into citizenship on the 2nd anniversary of your PR approval. The same goes for your wife. However, you'll face the same quandry a lot of us face (as shown in this forum), which is that of dual citizenship (being disallowed).

Well, that's as much as I understand and have found out.

I'm in an interesting situation too. Came to Adelaide to study 9 years ago, graduated and got my Aust PR in 2003, then married a Malaysian with Aust PR. Last year, we have a son born to us, who now has Aust citizenship (& passport). So, whenever we travel now, it's passports of 3 different countries at the immigration counter. I missed the deadline to apply Sg citizenship for my son, but I'll leave it to him to apply for it (by virtue of descend) if he wants to in future. Oh, how I love if I can have dual citizenship!!

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Dear Raymond,

Need your advice..

I was born in SG. Born me and Wife are PR of AUST.

Decided to give birth in Aust.

Questions are;

1. Can my child born in Aust apply to be citizen of Aust by virtue of birth there? since both of us are PRs of Aust?

2. Once my child is a Citizen of Aust, can he/she apply to be a citizen of SG by virtue of Citizen by Descent since I am a SG Citizen and born in SG?.

3. Is it true that dual Citizen for my child will be up to 21 years?.

Thanks!

gildor


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Posted 10 November 2008 - 10:43 AM

QUOTE(lomantik @ Sep 8 2008, 11:57 AM)  


I know about the rule of ordinarily resident until age 10. I cannot apply for PR now due to administrative complications for my studies.

I wonder if I can apply for PR after my studies and convert the citizenship of my son to an Australian after I am granted PR. If so, is there a minimum time required between the time when I become a PR and my son applying for citizenship?




Hi,

Based on existing rules/laws, your child will be born a Singapore citizen, by virtue of you & your wife's citizenship, and the fact that neither of you are PRs in Aust. And, you'll have to submit a form to the ICA (I think) for him/her before he/she turns 1(it's a pain). If you decide to obtain PR after your studies, I don't think your son can be converted to an Aust citizen by virtue of that immediately. He/she will still have to 'serve' 10 years of residency before applying for citizenship.

Obviously, if you get Aust PR, you can apply for Aust PR for your son, based on the 'dependent' rule. And once done, I believe your son (and yourself included) will have the option of converting your PR into citizenship on the 2nd anniversary of your PR approval. The same goes for your wife. However, you'll face the same quandry a lot of us face (as shown in this forum), which is that of dual citizenship (being disallowed).

Well, that's as much as I understand and have found out.

I'm in an interesting situation too. Came to Adelaide to study 9 years ago, graduated and got my Aust PR in 2003, then married a Malaysian with Aust PR. Last year, we have a son born to us, who now has Aust citizenship (& passport). So, whenever we travel now, it's passports of 3 different countries at the immigration counter. I missed the deadline to apply Sg citizenship for my son, but I'll leave it to him to apply for it (by virtue of descend) if he wants to in future. Oh, how I love if I can have dual citizenship!!

Cheers.
Raymond


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Posted 08 September 2008 - 04:10 PM

[b]Hahaha... I thought right! Still it's better to check with the Dept of Immi & Indigenous Affairs. No point seeking outside advices, chances are 'hearsay' Like I said earlier, visit: www.immi.gov.au
Hey, no sons left to defend our Motherland if every sons become Aussies, Yankees and Kiwis.

Our Ministars have to import more F/Ts and consider Mercernaries or Gurkhas to fight for The Little Red Dot. Sad, isn't it? unsure.gif

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 11:57 AM

Hi Charles,

I am AAA.

Ct and Power Ranger,

Thanks for the info.

I know about the rule of ordinarily resident until age 10. I cannot apply for PR now due to administrative complications for my studies.

I wonder if I can apply for PR after my studies and convert the citizenship of my son to an Australian after I am granted PR. If so, is there a minimum time required between the time when I become a PR and my son applying for citizenship?

Thanks!



#5 choo carol

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE(lomantik @ May 7 2008, 12:07 PM)  

I am doing a higher degree in Australia on a student visa (sub-class 574) and my wife is on a spouse visa.
We are expecting a baby in end November. Can I register my baby for Australian citizenship and apply for an Australian passport for the baby? As we are scheduled to fly back to SG in mid December, I need to get the travel documents done asap after the birth.

Anyone been in a similar situation before? Please kindly advise.
Thanks in advance!



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hi there, jz fumbled through the topics and wonder if you have found an answer to your problem so far and what is the outcome??

if not you should have your question answered at :
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/automatic-ci...tz-by-birth.htm

Not sure about SG side though.. its all confusing i know but i truly think unless one of you is a PR or citizen, you will not be able to register your bub for Australian citizenship by birth. But only AFTER he/she is born AND lived here for min. 10 years..

Cheers! wink.gif

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:34 PM

QUOTE(Tan Charlie @ Aug 21 2008, 06:26 AM)  

[i]Hi Lomantik,
I think I know someone in simliar situation as yours here in Brisse, or could you be the same person(AAA)?
To clear your mind, go to www.immi.gov.au - click on 'citizen by birth' - then Automatic citizenship, all the details are there. Have a nice day! wink.gif



Unfortunately, Aus Immigration does not allow that. But I could be wrong, new update maybe. Check the citizenship website for it.

And are you entitle to medicare? Check this coz it can be costly to deliver here.

#7 Tan Charles

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 06:26 AM

[i]Hi Lomantik,
I think I know someone in simliar situation as yours here in Brisse, or could you be the same person(AAA)?
To clear your mind, go to www.immi.gov.au - click on 'citizen by birth' - then Automatic citizenship, all the details are there. Have a nice day! wink.gif

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE(lomantik @ May 7 2008, 12:07 PM)  

I am doing a higher degree in Australia on a student visa (sub-class 574) and my wife is on a spouse visa.
We are expecting a baby in end November. Can I register my baby for Australian citizenship and apply for an Australian passport for the baby? As we are scheduled to fly back to SG in mid December, I need to get the travel documents done asap after the birth.

Anyone been in a similar situation before? Please kindly advise.
Thanks in advance!


Hi lomantik

first of all, let me congratulate you and your missus in your upcoming bundle of joy!

since no one has replied you, let me share my experience.

although i live in NZ instead of OZ, NZ law is such that anyone who holds a work permit for more than 2 years or PR can register their children as NZ citizen after birth. and obviously wife can also stand to enjoy free medical benefits before, during and after child birth. im sure OZ has similar regulations as well.

but since you are on a student visa, not sure if OZ govt give you certain benefits as well? or u must be holding at least a work permit?

as im sure you need to work and contribute to the economy before the govt can give you something back in return .... like citizenship for your child.

anyway since my daughter was born a year ago, i got her NZ passport as well as SG passport so my little one has 2 citizenships. which SG immigration seems to have no issues with. guess if i had a son, things might be different.

but in the mean time, i got no issues about her 2 passports as when i go back to sg and buy stuff, can claim GST using her NZ passport wahahaha

anyway hope my story helps. and hope that by the time you read this, you would have sorted this out.


I am only a few types away .... biofolic@hotmail.com

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 12:07 PM

I am doing a higher degree in Australia on a student visa (sub-class 574) and my wife is on a spouse visa.
We are expecting a baby in end November. Can I register my baby for Australian citizenship and apply for an Australian passport for the baby? As we are scheduled to fly back to SG in mid December, I need to get the travel documents done asap after the birth.

Anyone been in a similar situation before? Please kindly advise.
Thanks in advance!





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